The Other

Wednesday, 8 February 2012

Mimic, 1992

1877, Gustave Caillebotte, Paris Street, Rainy Day
Caillebotte-Paris-A-Rainy-Day-1-1024x768Caillebotte-Paris-A-Rainy-Day-1-1024x768

Picture for Women 1979

Manet, A bar at the Folies Bergere, 1882

A Sudden Gust of Wind, after Hokusai

http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/jeffwall/rooms/room1.shtm

http://www.answers.com/topic/jeff-wall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROfIkwPNbw

TVS -

manipulation of film, content in all?
caves are different from the other 3 - follow the caves with the sound, compliment each other.
real time and linear
4 different landscapes and different colours.
all walking in 3, landscape moves in one, contrast
Going somewhere, moving into the distance, endless
Even when the person is no longer there the camera is still
Time is important, memory possibly
'Nothing' places, no about that anymore as there are so many?
Collection of images, caves put people off as the different one or 'odd one out' if all were different wouldnt be so off putting.
Question intention of manipulations, is it any longer necessary?
The romantic and sublime images are reminiscent of the past, the saturation and quality, the caves seems more futuristic.
Like paintings - especially field.
Echo of perspective, shift from flat plains to perspective points. Clearly a factor.
Horizontal vs vertical perspectives. Renaissance
Characters and landscapes, any relationships? Time travel, journey, in the caves like he's being taken.
Cant see where the others are going but in the caves, feels quite claustrophobic, watching continuously.
Can use your imagination for those that disappear.
Sound contrasts the images, futuristic and digital vs. natural.
Stressed as you find something in the images to follow.
Ambient sound?

PROJECTION

like the size of the image, much more effective - but TV screens like that they can be viewed together, separately
TV works better as a relationship together, more natural
Projection played backwards etc more awkward and obvious, doesn't work as well
unnatural vs naturally connected
What is the trickery about? Medium, what someone can do or more than that?
Dreamlike, against the reality of the manipulations - not real
More subtle beach one and the cave work.
The static vs the moving a good contradiction
4 way set up works well, see against each other much more interesting
spaces - diagonal horizontal etc
Have the individual always walking away on purpose? Don't try to connect to them
Sublime, at odds with something that avoids romanticism
Sublime vs futuristic
How move through space in points of art history
metaphysics vs. paintings
performance of body through space
Moving photos
P (something) collective, HK119, Duchamp - rotoreliefs, Edvard Munch etc
Having one moving away and the location coming forward is optically demanding
Relationship between minimal structures through colour and painting
Acknowledge inspiration from paintings

Clamped down on 'rules' need to do more so
Horizon points in each one
Relate to a picture - particularly if framed in a TV
3 point perspective - like the rules of a painting, and with the aesthetic landscapes
Hightened the painterly look with costumes e.g. the red hat in the caves vs the green, the backpack in the railway tunnel one, as has converging lines on the backpack.
Narrative of journey with nothing much going on
On the beach would be best to walk directly forwards like the others?
Railway track suggests another direction, perhaps needs to be filmed from further back for more of a 'disappearing' point
Music is quite cheesy, early 80's sci-fi.
Without music more like pictures/paintings.
Rigorous minimal aesthetic with a neutral horizon point that seems highly romanticised
Faked parts - need to decide if we want them to be subtle (which I think he thought would be best) and to question whether they are relevant if they can hardly be noticed (which he said he did)
3 things going on - the awareness and subtlety of the tricks and psychological element, the sci-fi soundtrack and narrative and the aesthetic painterly quality.
Seem like small clips from sci-fi dramas
Will they feed into one another or be looped etc (I explained about how it had worked best on the TVs)

Need to fill in self appraisal and prepare for formative review.